Next Collab Pack?

[WinDEU]

I guess I should mention that I don't mind doing easier difficulties for charts if no one else wants to. :V

[Xynn]

I guess I should mention that I don't mind doing easier difficulties for charts if no one else wants to. :V

Better yet, make marathons with songs from the pack.

[Genoisawesome]

I guess I should mention that I don't mind doing easier difficulties for charts if no one else wants to. :V

Ill pump out Novice/Easy/Medium charts all day if I have to

[The Insomniac]

I guess I should mention that I don't mind doing easier difficulties for charts if no one else wants to. :V

Better yet, make marathons with songs from the pack.

Normally I'd go all for this, and even help..but I haven't touched marathons since I helped with ITG Rebirth. D::
Count me in anyway. I'd like to help anywhere if I can. Even easier charts if needed.

[Xynn]

You did marathons for Rebirth? Those marathons are awesome! Draigunfire <333333

[Valex]

You did marathons for Rebirth? Those marathons are awesome! Draigunfire <333333

Should've called it draigunforce

[Spooty Biscuit]

You did marathons for Rebirth? Those marathons are awesome! Draigunfire <333333

That one was me, actually. Also, going to take the opportunity to apologize for the middle of Sail AwaY on that one, haha.

[Xynn]

You did marathons for Rebirth? Those marathons are awesome! Draigunfire <333333

That one was me, actually. Also, going to take the opportunity to apologize for the middle of Sail AwaY on that one, haha.

No, don't. It's the best part.

[Genoisawesome]

Hopefully, this will happen after Draft '11....
please?

[Slayer³]

Think about it. How did We, ourselves, learn to pass Expert charts?

*picture of Extreme machine*

Just playing Devil's advocate here

Right, that is how we learned to pass them. But just think about if Kyle and Foy had the mindset that is going on in this thread. Think about if ITG had been released with just expert charts. The game would be dead in the water within months of it coming out.

You guys act as if there aren't already a ton of charts out there for beginners to play and build up their skills.

Well yes, there are. But that ratio of fully charted sims to expert-only sims is slowly changing as more and more expert-only packs are coming out. Now, I'm not trying to guilt-trip anyone into making full charts for everything they do. I'm just trying to put it into perspective. Yes, we all played DDR before playing ITG, because ITG hadn't come out yet (at least for me). But ITG is its own game in its own right. It has a completely different game engine and new gameplay elements (mines, rolls, hands, marathons). Why tell someone to start with a different game?

And finally, the collab packs previously released on these sites have had full single/double before, right? Why change it now?

I agree with WinDEU on this.
The reason I came to this site was because I met Revolver at AB 2010 and he showed me some doubles charts. I only play doubles so finding a place where people actually make charts for doubles was a big deal. It's the reason why I still play the game. Now I'm trying to pass my first doubles 14 which I've gotten close to.

Another big plus was the wide range of difficulties.

And newer players do come here for them.
I've referred at least 5 newer players to this site over the last year.
Players that are in the light and medium ranges.

Every now and then I run into a new player who sees someone play a song they like on expert.
Usually they mouth how they wish they could find changes like that, but they only play light, medium, etc.
I mention there's custom songs with charts around their level of play at a great place and refer them here.

[Kyzentun]

Every now and then I run into a new player who sees someone play a song they like on expert.
Usually they mouth how they wish they could find changes like that, but they only play light, medium, etc.
I mention there's custom songs with charts around their level of play at a great place and refer them here.

Well, with the dominant charting here, you're kind of doing them a disservice. All that's at their level are the site packs, Ike Pie's stuff, and Dark Luke's stuff. Practically everything in Individual Files and Packs of Files is SX10+ only.
So you're guiding them to a few files appropriate to them, but they're mostly going to see charts that are far beyond what they can play.
For actually providing a large selection of custom files in their skill range, they'd be better of going to ZIV. Only problem there is that a substantial number of their prolific steppers don't care if their charts have doublestepping.

[NIQ9]

For actually providing a large selection of custom files in their skill range, they'd be better of going to ZIV. Only problem there is that a substantial number of their prolific steppers don't care if their charts have doublestepping.

They also don't care if the files are crap. Simfiles can have random doublesteps leading into awkward patterns and they don't need to go to the music. Also, step rhetoric does not exist at ZIV

They won't admit it, but song choice is the only thing they care about.

[Dark Luke]

For actually providing a large selection of custom files in their skill range, they'd be better of going to ZIV. Only problem there is that a substantial number of their prolific steppers don't care if their charts have doublestepping.

They also don't care if the files are crap. Simfiles can have random doublesteps leading into awkward patterns and they don't need to go to the music. Also, step rhetoric does not exist at ZIV

They won't admit it, but song choice is the only thing they care about.

The truly crap files are those that have totally wrong bpm which the steps randomly mashed using the sm editor's record function.

A few files in the DDRei Tournamixes did not even have the correct bpm, and they still received a score (but very low). At least bemanistyle DDROSC started DQing files that didn't have correct bpm since OSC 2.

Video: These guys are playing ITG for the 3rd time and just figured out how to make custom charts. Seems like they seem to have the bpm right too.

[Slayer³]

Every now and then I run into a new player who sees someone play a song they like on expert.
Usually they mouth how they wish they could find changes like that, but they only play light, medium, etc.
I mention there's custom songs with charts around their level of play at a great place and refer them here.

Well, with the dominant charting here, you're kind of doing them a disservice. All that's at their level are the site packs, Ike Pie's stuff, and Dark Luke's stuff. Practically everything in Individual Files and Packs of Files is SX10+ only.
So you're guiding them to a few files appropriate to them, but they're mostly going to see charts that are far beyond what they can play.
For actually providing a large selection of custom files in their skill range, they'd be better of going to ZIV. Only problem there is that a substantial number of their prolific steppers don't care if their charts have doublestepping.

There is not question there is more SX10+ charts.
Those packs equate to 150-200+ full charts. The majority of those are well made.

But that makes my case in point. The reason to create or collaborate to have charts with full ranges of songs.
So there is more.
Which others have volunteered to make

[Dark Luke]

Lower difficulty charts (typically medium and below) take much less effort to make compared to the high level expert charts.