MUDKYP'S TUTORIAL: Stutters and Wave Gimmicks

[Genoisawesome]

Hes obviously having his man-period.

[TYLR]

Seems that way.

Anyway, thanks a lot for this topic, Charles. I know I'll use it, and I'm sure many of the rest of us will too.

[Gazebo]

Wow, I never thought I'd see such a simple concept be taken to such an overcomplicated level. Not that I don't appreciate the time you put into this tutorial, this is just way different from how I input gimmicks.

Waaaaaaiiiiiiit. Didn't I teach you basically this exact method while you were making Pirate Hooker?

[mudkyp]

Wow, I never thought I'd see such a simple concept be taken to such an overcomplicated level. Not that I don't appreciate the time you put into this tutorial, this is just way different from how I input gimmicks.

Waaaaaaiiiiiiit. Didn't I teach you basically this exact method while you were making Pirate Hooker?

Just post it, then.

[Valex]

I really appreciate this Charles (and Gazebo, I plan to use your method as well), I've been putting off making gimmicky charts because I've been to lazy to do that magic number 15 shit and this actually does look easier

[Gazebo]

Waaaaaaiiiiiiit. Didn't I teach you basically this exact method while you were making Pirate Hooker?

Just post it, then.

I just realized that my post was a little ambiguous. The method I showed ChaosUnown was basically Charles's method, not the super-secret method Mr. Unown is referring to. Anyway, here it is, from the DDR Illini forum, from when Pirate Hooker was a work in progress:

Gimmicks most of the time are mostly personal preference, so I can't blame you for not being comfortable with the gimmicks. But to me most of them did sit right, but I couldn't give a lot of variation as I'm just learning the proper calculations to the gimmicks, now if I could learn things like 4x and .5x stutters, slingshot and hiccup gimmicks (And much more multiplier numbers), I could definitely make a more appealing gimmick chart.

Ah, well if you want to learn more stutters, those are easy to teach, I'll just go ahead and give a primer here. (BPM gimmicks and stop/BPM gimmick combinations are more difficult so I'll have to hold off on those)

Stop length = M x L x C

Magic number: M = 60/BPM (this is the number of seconds in one beat)

Length coefficient: L = The length of your stutter in beats. 1 for a 4th note, 1/2 for an 8th note, 1/3 for a 12th note, 1/4 for a 16th note, etc. also 3/4 for three 16th note length, etc.

Speed coefficient: C = 1 - (1/S), where S is your stutter speed, so for a 1.5x stutter, C = 1 - (1/1.5) = 1/3, for a 2x stutter, C = 1 - (1/2) = 1/2, for 4x, C = 1 - (1/4) = 3/4

So as an example, for 4x speed stutters on 8th notes at 140 BPM,

M = 60 / 140 = 0.42857
L = 1/2
C = 1 - (1/4) = 3/4

So your stop length should be 0.42857 x (1/2) x (3/4) = 0.160714 s... you'll have to apply the corrections as usual.

It's the same formula as mentioned in this guide, just split up into parts.

[mudkyp]

There's also this that works with 1.5x BPM hiccups. http://youtu.be/l7TeENPVD1I

[mute]

This just goes to show that you can't post a really good FAQ without having people argue with you.

[Genoisawesome]

mute, no matter what happens, someone is going to have a different opinion. Do they NEED to argue, no. but some people do anyways, I guess its just in their nature or something.

[mudkyp]

This just goes to show that you can't post a really good FAQ without having people argue with you.

Thanks for the compliment anyway. I'm glad you thought it was really good. :]

[Gazebo]

This just goes to show that you can't post a really good FAQ without having people argue with you.

Yes you can

[Timinator]

Thanks for the in-depth guide man! I've figured out how to do some basic gimmicks from just crunching the numbers, but this simplifies everything a great deal. It also gives me a much better idea of what gimmicks and multipliers to use for different types of effects.

[Dark Luke]

Here's a bpm gimmick that is very commonly used in o2jam that can easily fit any existing beat: (each line represents a 16th note)

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(beat) bpm * 0.5
bpm * 1
bpm * 2
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(beat) bpm * 1
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(beat)
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[mudkyp]

Neat

[EZA]

I never really got gimmicks untill I read this, thank you.