Mute's ITG Syncing Guide ~ UPDATED 2016-06-28

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Re: Mute's Pro Syncing Guide ~ UPDATED 11/02/11

Postby mute on Sun May 27, 2012 2:06 am

Blinded No More wrote:OK I have changed the offset to -0.012, but both my ITG/ITG2 files (from Zenius-I-vanisher) AND files from Mute Sims are offsync. What gives?


mute wrote:Step 1 - Set your StepMania's global offset to -0.012 seconds. This is to ensure that the "Current Second" reading in Edit Mode is an accurate representation of where the sync will be on an r21 or r23 cabinet. This has nothing to do with being able to FA the file on your personal computer setup.


The bolded text answers your question.
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Re: Mute's Pro Syncing Guide ~ UPDATED 11/02/11

Postby Blinded No More on Mon May 28, 2012 8:42 am

mute wrote:
Blinded No More wrote:OK I have changed the offset to -0.012, but both my ITG/ITG2 files (from Zenius-I-vanisher) AND files from Mute Sims are offsync. What gives?


mute wrote:Step 1 - Set your StepMania's global offset to -0.012 seconds. This is to ensure that the "Current Second" reading in Edit Mode is an accurate representation of where the sync will be on an r21 or r23 cabinet. This has nothing to do with being able to FA the file on your personal computer setup.


The bolded text answers your question.


OK thanks, sorry bout that, apparently I can't read :P
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Re: Mute's Pro Syncing Guide ~ UPDATED 11/02/11

Postby Jayce on Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:03 am

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Re: Mute's Pro Syncing Guide ~ UPDATED 11/02/11

Postby CondorTalon on Tue Jun 12, 2012 9:38 am

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Re: Mute's Pro Syncing Guide ~ UPDATED 11/02/11

Postby MdX MaxX on Mon Jul 16, 2012 5:00 pm

I've been wondering this for a while but never got around to posting it for some reason:

What exactly is happening in Step 2? So you want each beat to land slightly before a wave peak? How do you know how much before the wave peak the beat needs to be?
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Re: Mute's Pro Syncing Guide ~ UPDATED 11/02/11

Postby SM MaxX on Mon Jul 16, 2012 5:40 pm

MdX MaxX wrote:I've been wondering this for a while but never got around to posting it for some reason:

What exactly is happening in Step 2? So you want each beat to land slightly before a wave peak?


The attack is starting basically. See how the waveform is thicker after the line in the example? That shows where the sound really starts; the wave peak is just the loudest part of of the sound and usually not where it starts.

How do you know how much before the wave peak the beat needs to be?


For electronic music it's usually pretty easy to see where the beat starts, as given in the example you should notice a sharp contrast in the waveform. For other stuff like rock or trance though it might be a bit tougher to see.
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Re: Mute's Pro Syncing Guide ~ UPDATED 11/02/11

Postby MdX MaxX on Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:30 pm

SM MaxX wrote:
MdX MaxX wrote:I've been wondering this for a while but never got around to posting it for some reason:

What exactly is happening in Step 2? So you want each beat to land slightly before a wave peak?


The attack is starting basically. See how the waveform is thicker after the line in the example? That shows where the sound really starts; the wave peak is just the loudest part of of the sound and usually not where it starts.

How do you know how much before the wave peak the beat needs to be?


For electronic music it's usually pretty easy to see where the beat starts, as given in the example you should notice a sharp contrast in the waveform. For other stuff like rock or trance though it might be a bit tougher to see.

Ah, makes sense. Thanks!
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SynCing help?

Postby Nayfear on Sun Sep 23, 2012 3:08 pm

I just got audaCity and I literally dont know how to use it and mutes guide is hard to understand. I dont know where the openitg global offset is and stuff... an someone help me? =)

oh and im being shit serious.

I have a song in mind already.
I have it cut /remixed/etc.
I cut it with Virtual DJ Pro... Uhhh....

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Re: SynCing help?

Postby Cat-Bomb on Sun Sep 23, 2012 3:16 pm

Nayfear wrote:oh and im being shit serious.


Oh really now?

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Re: Mute's Pro Syncing Guide ~ UPDATED 11/02/11

Postby Spooty Biscuit on Sun Sep 23, 2012 3:18 pm

Shift + F11 and F12 while a song is playing will let you view and set the global offset. Alt + Shift + F11 or F12 shifts it in increments of 1 ms.
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Re: Mute's Pro Syncing Guide ~ UPDATED 11/02/11

Postby Cat-Bomb on Sun Sep 23, 2012 3:21 pm

Spooty Biscuit wrote:Shift + F11 and F12 while a song is playing will let you view and set the global offset. Alt + Shift + F11 or F12 shifts it in increments of 1 ms.

Thats in oITG right?
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Re: Mute's Pro Syncing Guide ~ UPDATED 11/02/11

Postby Nayfear on Sun Sep 23, 2012 3:24 pm

Thanks SB.

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Re: Mute's Pro Syncing Guide ~ UPDATED 11/02/11

Postby Nayfear on Sun Sep 23, 2012 3:29 pm

Got it to -0.012 Offset.

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Re: Mute's Pro Syncing Guide ~ UPDATED 11/02/11

Postby T-Dog! on Sun Sep 23, 2012 3:51 pm

Cat-Bomb wrote:
Spooty Biscuit wrote:Shift + F11 and F12 while a song is playing will let you view and set the global offset. Alt + Shift + F11 or F12 shifts it in increments of 1 ms.

Thats in oITG right?


I could be wrong, but I think this works in all versions of stepmania.
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Re: Mute's Pro Syncing Guide ~ UPDATED 11/02/11

Postby /// on Sun Sep 23, 2012 3:55 pm

T-Dog! wrote:
Cat-Bomb wrote:
Spooty Biscuit wrote:Shift + F11 and F12 while a song is playing will let you view and set the global offset. Alt + Shift + F11 or F12 shifts it in increments of 1 ms.

Thats in oITG right?


I could be wrong, but I think this works in all versions of stepmania.

I'm not sure if it worked in 3.9, because I never stepped files when I used 3.9 (and, slightly related, I never used 3.95), but I know it works in all the versions of 4 and 5.
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